Fresh images of £1.2bn Liverpool skyscraper district as plans move forward

Well in! Get it built. This is exactly what the city needs

This is the kind of ambition the city has waited a long time for. Don’t like talking about the other city but this is far more impressive than anything down the M62

Get it Built ASAP

Ok so TJ Morris aren’t funding this and are seeking investment. Is the project viable?

Liverpool was once known as the New York of Europe because of it’s ambition and visionary leadership. The city has stood still for too long how can any proud Liverpudlian be happy being in Manchesters shadow the last 30 years.

What’s it really got to do with people over in Wirral, just because someone can’t see the Anglican Cathedral from their bathroom window in New Brighton. Just get the whole thing built and they can enjoy all the new vistas, even from North Wales.

This could be a game changer for Liverpool if it’s handled properly and people get behind it. As well as BTR it would be nice if there were some apartments that were for sale. BTR is all very well but it doesn’t help people feel invested in where they live. That being said this is super impressive.

One of the questions asked in consultation was do you think the 900 construction jobs that will be created is good for the city

Anyone who answers no is either a weirdo or wants the city to fail

Cue the ‘who needs ugly glass boxes what we need is’…..etc

Consultations in Liverpool just attract the ” We want affordable bungalows” brigade. Sensible people needs to back it and show NIMBYS are a vocal minority.

I thought this was funded?

We need more affordable bungalow’s but I like to see fancy apartments for business people too because Liverpool invented the skyscraper before New York and we are a global city!!

I am hugely excited about this project and truly hope that it’s not more fluff and flannel that the City of Liverpool has experienced over the last sixty years. So many promises of large scales projects Liverpool and Wirral waters being one such project. Given Liverpools poor history on failed developments and investors been left out of pocket. I just wonder where the investment Davos are seeking will come from. Now less of the negativity, please just make it happen without hindrance, setback or further disappointment. Liverpool needs and deserves this.

There are some really interesting buildings here – certainly not just the extruded prisms that basically look rectangular from a distance. In Manchester we’re always told that we can’t expect interesting shapes on our skyscrapers because they’d be too expensive to build when compared to the price that any apartments within them would achieve up North And yet, somehow the maths clearly works out in Liverpool? (I must say that the two ‘Contour’ towers in Manchester are a notable exceptions to the rectangle rule)

Great news…..still doubts when these mega modern loving spaces are to be built…..Typical of Liverpool Council….they often scrap their plans……Should I look on the horizon ……

Fabulous if it all happens?

We are going to find out how good Steve Rotheram and Liam Robinson are. Great leadership makes it happen just look at Howard Bernstein in Manchester if Steve and Liam have anything about them this will happen.

The proposal looks great it’s a long time coming , I hope It progresses all the planning hurdles and building work start ASAP. For to long Liverpool city Council and others with their own vested interests have but obstacles in the way of development.
Other regional cities have rebuilt their city centres to many in the city Council seem to want to persevere every thing in aspic and turn their back on inward investment.
I hope this goes ahead for it will bring much the needed Jobs and the necessary homes/ apartments that the city centre needs to grow.
The city centre is not an area for family 3 / 4 bed semi detached homes it never so until a brief period in the 80s/90s , which change its face so might say irreparable.
Let’s hope this scheme helps change that mind set and bring Liverpool into the twenty first century.

No doubt these great towers will be open to the public at the same time as Will Alsop’s cloud.

The People who run Liverpool have no more excuses anymore Labour Government, Labour Mayor, Labour Council its time to get on with it.

Excellent news. Let’s get the LMR built now, so that the North West can be a real economic rival to London.

Not sure why we need to ask the views of the wirral ? Like the vast majority of the people and comments i am desperate to see this come to fruition . I would be such a boost for our city and give such a positive vibe to the wider investment community and developers. I don’t want to think about it not happening it would be off the scale cruel and deflating . We all need to get behind this and make it happen. Hats off to Davos

This is an excellent project for Liverpool that cannot be ignored or refused, go forward Liverpool and live up to your past architectural heritage and innovation.

As a Manchester person im very jealous to be fair Liverpool deserves this type of development because they are still in Manchester’s shadow even this is not enough to beat us but for those developers in Manchester we want more tall skyscrapers in the city centre and turn it into our own Manhattan along the translate road and maybe a 30 storey office building and a mall in the northern district

Great images, I hope I’m wrong but I suspect that this will take years and will be scaled back and value engineered into smaller rectangular boxes.

@Manchattan supporter,now your speaking my language! Couldn’t had put it better myself! If we want to be the Capital of the North or become England’s own Chicago we need these type of designs! The only developers that are aware of that are Salboy with the Nobu tower 246m,Absolute game changer! and the only one that is willing to step up.But if we want to compete with the like a of London and Birmingham and now Liverpool,We need to skyscrapers in the city center!

Absolutely brilliant get that built it’s stunning

London, Manchester and Liverpool are the only English cities that are known throughout the world. London is obviously number one but Manchester is without a doubt the second city now we just need Liverpool to wake up and show some ambition.

Is this scheme fully funded, as we have been led to believe from the outset, or not. This is the all important question. Can someone give us a clear answer.

This is going to be one of the greatest assets for Liverpool, when the new and second 5 star hotel is built along with the serviced suites it will be of great benefit in attracting even more events and visitors to the City from shows, exhibitions cruise ships and major conferences…up to you now LCC it is now or never.

Can’t we have some international architecture talent instead of Simpson Haugh (who are very good at what they do, but they are Manchester).

It would be nice to know exactly where it is,presumably it is somewhere in the vicinity of King’s Dock.

@Nick Carden Oxford and Cambridge aren’t cities known throughout the world? In terms of major English cities, though, your point definitely stands: London, Manchester and Liverpool. Birmingham, Leeds and the like cannot compete with those levels of “brand recognition”.

Another carbon copy..

Looks fantastic

An amazing scheme that will have a bigger positive impact on Liverpool than Liverpool One did, this is the development to put Liverpool back on the map. Let the beast wake up, no value engineering, no height reductions, and remove every possible barrier which could slow this down. Kings could be the blueprint for the immediate area, and encourage similar schemes from fully funded proven developers.

Spades in the ground asap please – Get It Built!

Very positive, one is the issues mentioned elsewhere but not highlighted is the proposal to bury part of the road system underground . This issue would be a game changer both for the public realm and even more importantly for the congested traffic system in this area . More information would be useful

Absolutely stunning! The public realm and the building designs in a location as iconic as Liverpool waterfront makes this somewhere I’d love to live! Hats off to Sir Hugh Frost and Davos, this is truly impressive. What a waterfront we will have, makes me proud to be Liverpolitan!

Who can afford to live in these?

The reality is that the North West will never catch London. It’s the only global city that we have and whether we like it or not its tax base sustains the rest of the country.

@Nick – Birmingham is the second city and if you got to the USA you have to explain that Manchester is near Liverpool, they have never heard of it.

Skyscrapers can make cities worse, in fact they usually do.

Brilliant proposal for the booming city of LIVERPOOL. Let’s see it happen.!!!.Still waiting for the CRUISE TERMINAL to be extended!!

As a planner and Liverpudlian, I support the project. My major concern would be for the micro climate amongst the tall structures, and I hope the images are showing that you have recognised the need for screening from the winds. A major opportunity would be to create a visitor attraction in this precinct, rather than purely residential landscaping. With the close spacing of buildings, I wonder whether it could include an elevated pedestrian promenade between some of then, similar to the Singapore example, with cafes, bars and galleries, so that visitors could see the cruise ships and the whole waterfront from around 20 storeys? To me, the view from Panoramic 34 is the biggest attraction on the existing waterfront.

There are now talks with a Nobu Tower in Liverpool

I really like to designs they are different from each other and stunning and will complement our waterfront very well as the neighbouring Central Park which is currently being developed.

Wow! Wow! Wow! What an amazing scheme devised by people who truly believe in our city and who have done for many many years. Hats off to Tom Morris and his team and to Hugh Frost and his team for getting together to create a plan that any city in the world would be really proud to have ownership of. The images are simply stunning and I just hope that comments made on the public consultation are of the positive type and constructive type and not of the negative and destructive type. As Buzz Lightyear in ‘Toy Story’ once said ‘To Infinity and beyond!’ Lets hope that Davos and Beetham get the opportunity to expand onto Liverpool’s Infinity site. Now that would be something. Good luck to all involved and I just can’t wait to see the cranes and diggers appearing on the site or hopefully sites!

I applaud the ambition but will be interested to see how these towers are funded. It would need a significant growth in Liverpool’s economy to bring forward the demand for these sort of towers any time soon

Manchester in the USA is irrelevant they all know Liverpool

@Anonymous May 5th at 09.25am

Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham and Leeds is in the UK I’m very proud of North of England….Nodu tower is still progress for skyscraper will be completed in 2031 will be tall than Liverpool. It absolutely NOTHING do with USA. 👍🏻

What about the Liverpool City Council Tall Buildings SPD?
This suggests that even a 28-storey building shouldn’t have been approved in this part of the city.

Fortunately those in the USA who control the purse strings are totally aware of where Manchester is!!! Less aware of Liverpool based on past investment there!!!

I’ve got news for some of the people posting here. Most of the people in the USA have not heard of either Liverpool or Manchester, they know London and some have heard of Edinburgh other than that your average American has little knowledge of the UK. It’s also an illusion that Liverpool has some kind of special relationship with New York. As for Liverpools claim to be the second city of the empire I’ve also heard this said of Glasgow, Dublin and Mumbai. Liverpool and Manchester are fine UK cities but neither are world cities.

People of USA is actually have heard of Manchester and Liverpool because of Beatles, John Lennon is Liverpool super famous. And Manchester is world of football Manchester United and Manchester city is famous 3 triple winner cup and class 92 and Alex Ferguson is Manchester United legends which is most world knowledge of Liverpool and Manchester in the UK. Edinburgh is Scottish capital and Glasgow is famous of vibrant culture and football old firm between Rangers and Celtic that what most people heard of it. 👍🏻

When I’m walking around New York the first thing I think is “wow this is so similar to Liverpool”

If you think TJ Morris are going so public and high profile with this and they haven’t got funding, you’re beyond naive. The reputational damage for Hugh Frost, Ted M etc al would be severe. They aren’t playing.
The typical cynics on here should jump in the Mersey….imagine such a development in Manchester – would see these comments?

Zero chance of this being built out in any of the current TJ Morris board lifespan or mine for that matter. Im confused on how a retailer thinks that high rise residential construction market has ROI at present ?

I live in Manc and LOVE this. Hope it goes ahead – and hope it gives Manc a kick up the arse on better towers and place making

Of course they have funding it’s just that some people are jealous because this is better than anything their city has produced already it’s now copy and paste out of date horrid boxes

Is the project viable? Very good question. Might be just what the city needs but whether it will get it is another matter, seem to be a lot of developments in Liverpool that never come to fruition, and I can say for certain a lot of money lost

Nowhere does it say that TJ Morris are funding this scheme, assuming it’s even financially viable. What the article does say is that Davos (the joint venture set up to deliver it) is seeking investors.

Sorry but where on earth do you think the money is coming from? Nobody risks their own money and there is only so much to go around. Manchester hoovers up more than its fair share because of delivery and returns and will continue to do so. Even so building towers in Manchester is marginal and has required some intervention. Don’t get too seduced by fluffy drawings. With the fairest of winds it will be five years before the first tower breaks ground and it won’t look anything like those images

This looks absolutely amazing! Well done to all involved

Really disappointed that I didn’t hear about this in April then I could have gone to the exhibition. The consultation website includes pretty pictures with very little concrete details. If the website site mirrors the exhibition it must have been a complete waste of time – unless the people supporting the exhibit could answer questions.
I would love to hear the opinion of a professional market researcher on the quality and appropriateness of this consultation. A consumer scientist contact of mine said that this just looks like a cosmetic attempt to say people had a say in the proposal.

Has anyone really looked at the consultation website – it didn’t give me anything sensible on which I felt I could make a proper decision as to whether this will be a good or bad thing for the city.
I wonder how many people who will be living in the shadow of this development even know that this consultation is taking place? How is it good practice to just have only a week consultation with limited information especially when you choose to hold this the week of the biggest set of elections in the UK for 2 years.
It’s great that the developers have been in active detailed discussions about the King Edward Triangle but given the track record of this Labour Council of bodged and abandoned developments how can this be reassuring to the people of Liverpool. Come on team do a better job! Why not hold another longer consultation (say 1 month) with a better website, a better much more open questionnaire and a week-long exhibition well-advertised across social media and with leaflet drops to all residents on William Jessop Way. I don’t know if the exhibition had proper models showing the actual height of all 10 proposed properties but can’t something like that be shared more widely or even better a 360-degree view across the entire area (AI can do great things now) so that people can really see how the skyline across Liverpool might actually be affected.

The consultation website page on “Economic Impact” includes lots of apparently impressive figures but without any explanation of how these figures were produced – how can I tell that they weren’t made up by someone’s 5-year old!
I trust that before the consortium actively seek money from private investors that they produce a much more useful information pack – with all figures supported with adequate explanations or suitable links to the appropriate calculations or how to generate the data – otherwise I can’t see why anyone would choose to invest in this scheme.
Did anyone try to fill in the questionnaire – it comprises 8 closed statements that are clearly loaded in favour of the development. Then in order to submit the “questionnaire” you had to “consent to Merrion Strategy processing my data for market research purposes.” so I didn’t submit my comments.
All I have seen so far is a lot of froth with no proper detail. Come on buck your ideas up, shows us more and you never know you might get more support for your scheme.

Wow see the usual suspects creating a lot of negativity in the channel 64 plus comments this has certainly rattled some people who would personally like to see Liverpool stagnant

This looks great! It’ll be so good for the wider North West if this comes together as outlined. If they deliver NPR too and Liverpool/Manchester become better connected there’ll be enough critical mass up here to be a genuine counterweight to London and the South East. That can only be good for the whole of the UK. Best of luck to all involved

Cripes! A few people put sour cream in their coffee this morning. From what I understand, the first tower is fully funded by the project shareholders and they will be on site next year. There’s not a chance Morris or Frost would put their names (and cheque books) so energetically to something they didn’t believe in. Take a chill pill, folks.

A very exciting project for the city and waterfront along with Hill Dickinson Stadium .The future looks very good

Wait until one or two of these actually get built..then you’ll really get sour cream. It’s the big one that always scare them for some reason. They come limping out from under their bridge at the first sign of the word skyscraper..and that’s anywhere. There must be a spray we can use?

Why the need for ugly skyscrapers

Whatever you think of this, I’m a sceptic, the truth is that we need a strong north which means that Leeds Sheffield and Liverpool need to contribute much much more across all sectors. However successful Manchester has been it is not enough to move the north to the next level. If Morris and Frost can pull this off, fair play to them but the track record doesn’t fill me with confidence

Nothing changes if nothing changes.

Another step towards moving Liverpool into the modern age, we can embrace our heritage but don’t let it smother us, we have lots of energetic young entrepreneurs in Liverpool and we want to keep them here.
Look around the world and tall buildings are everywhere, we need to join the high-rise club and show our intent to be a successful, vibrant , city again.

Let’s just see how LCC deal with this they have been a disgrace previously with potential investment