Redevelopment of Stocktons, Chorlton precinct return for approval

I agree with Chorlton residents, the height is far too short for such a well connected area.

That Stocktons site proposal really is dreadful. Pastiche brutalism – I’d expect architects to come up with something original instead of producing bad copies of older styles.

So ‘ Daniel Green submitted plans to develop..’

I doubt it. Once planning permission is granted (and it will) I would suggest that Mr Green will appoint agents to sell the site on.

Let’s all wait and see what happens in say early 2027.

What a shock some Chorlton nimby’s object to the hight of the proposed development! Chorlton nimby’s object to everything.

Get on with it

Where is the land to build that many homes in Chorlton so have to build up if to include affordable homes. What residences do they overlook? It is the centre and the office block is of height.

To high plus loss of public parking means more pressure on local streets already overcrowded since the loss of parking on Barlow Moor road

Wow Simpson has to be one of the worst architects out there!

Why more flats

It very box skyscraper and too tall for Ancoats areas it would be in Deansgate, Great Jackson or Oxford Road it would be perfect.

The number of proposed units in an area as small as this is too high. A 1o- story building in this area is totally inappropriate and will ruin the aesthetic of the surrounding areas

One ugly tower that

The construction sounds as though it’s going to be too high. Something tasteful and less commercial looking would suit. Thumbs up to the affordable housing project.

I like the design of the Stocktons building.

The people of Chorlton should focus their arguments on real issues—such as the number of people moving into the area and the resulting strain on local services—rather than making exaggerated claims about how the building’s height will ruin the view while they’re eating a pizza at Nell’s. It’s a solid development. The same goes for Rye Bank Fields: instead of acknowledging their actual concern (parking—it’s always parking), some are trying to portray it as an area of outstanding natural beauty.

As a closing point, the dishonesty and double standards shown by these NIMBYs are giving the people of Chorlton a bad name.

I’ve said it from day one but that Great Ancoats Street tower is too tall. It has so many conditions (81 in total!!!) and payments to be made to local residents for loss of light claims, interference with airport radar even etc. It will be flipped and come back as a watered down tower by 10 storeys in 5 years time

WOW – even worse than Oxygen – design is dreadful

Chorlton scheme is great – people do not like change but this adds to the area in my opinion

Chorlton. Why does it need to be so tall? It’s totally out of character with the surrounding infrastructure

Chorlton needs to be tall because land values are high so they need to stack high to make the scheme viable. If it was a bunch of low rise buildings nothing would get built, and Chorlton ends up saddled with a derelict shopping centre for decades. Plus, more people living here will support local businesses and generate more growth for the local economy, while people living here (in a well-connected location close to tram and bus) will force less pressure on traffic and roads. Get it approved and built, it’s absolute common sense

Re Chorlton, when you actually go down there and look what this development is replacing, it really is a fantastic scheme. One of the best connected and most sought-after areas in Manchester should not be held back to keep a few unusable parking spaces and derelict shops. The height is fine and credit where credit is due for the level of affordable units

The Stocktons site is awful, I hope the buildings down the side are listed. A clever architect would have incorporated them into a new scheme.

The Chorlton devlopment is completely unacceptable. It is actually mental that anyone can think that a 10 storey development, designed so that is is closer to the boundary line (residents) than the existing eye sore that Graeme House is, is acceptable. If this goes ahead, then every councillor should hang their head in shame

The Chorlton development is absolutely crazy, honestly. Who in their right mind can think it’s appropriate to build something which shadows the rest of the community? Corporate greed to cram in more ‘luxury apartments;’

My overwhelming feeling of seeing those Chorlton plans is just one of sadness. Feels like such an opportunity lost for something which would truly benefit the community, not an extreme high rise housing development which is completely out of character with the rest of the community

So the affordable housing provision is just a smokescreen is it?

The article says the money is dependent on funding which may never materialise.

The developers will then come straight back and ask for this requirement to be removed.

Why do MCC always fall for this?

Boomer nimbies by the bucket load. Pull the drawbridge up now you’ve done ok.

Chorlton NIMBY’s not understanding their £750k mid terrace will soon be with £1m+ when these flats start changing hands for £500k

Re Chorlton (where I live), my only comment is that the red bricks may look too oppressive at that scale and a pale colour, similar to other recent developments in the area would be more aesthetically pleasing.

Sick bags required for when you pass Oxygen and Stockton’s on that stretch of Great Ancoats Street!

I love the reaction to Chorlton nimbys, the same people complain we dont have a thriving centre anymore. For that we need people living here, all sorts of people. Im a massive fan of this development and others like it, so hopefully my children if they choose can also live here.

The Chorlton Precinct scheme laughs in the face of basic urban design and planning principles. This scheme wouldn’t be contemplated in the centre of Didsbury, Withington or Levenshulme, with similar Victorian high street characteristics, and yet for some reason a city centre scaled development is proposed here, completely dominating the built form. The initial design response has been stretched and distorted into a carbuncle in response to a command from the client to go higher and has no doubt become a bit of an embarrassment to an otherwise excellent design studio. The scheme is ridiculous and reflects corporate greed of both the developer and the GMPF at the expense of the amenity of the local centre. The scheme is over developed and clearly the land value in this instance has been over inflated. GMPF have had more than 20 years to bring something forward and this scheme is still not hitting the mark of what should be a medium density block of apartments with ground floor retail. Look to Europe, keep it simple and ensure that the scheme makes a more rounded contribution to Chorlton than a pure profit driven embarrassment.

Sort out the graffiti first..looks like the Bronx in the 80s..

Chorlton whingers out in force again! Every time any development in the area is proposed they find some excuse to moan. Anybody would think that the developers are proposing to demolish an architectural gem instead they want to redevelop a rundown 1960s shopping precinct with no architectural merit. The proposals are not perfect but much better than the current mess. Get it built.

Chorlton scheme looks great, if you can’t build medium density housing in a district centre 10 minutes from manchester city centre where can you build it.
People are acting like this is proposed in the middle of beech road, the site is surrounded on two sides by main roads with commercial premises, and one side by a road with warehouses and a doctors surgery. There’s a few houses adjacent in one corner which are as far as possible from the highest side of the development.

Don’t get fooled again – affordable housing providers often do not have Homes England funding nailed down at the time of going to planning. Knowing how the system works Southway Housing will definitely get the funding approved.

Whiling away the hours at work, I looked at the “Save Ryebank Fields” page ‘No need to build here’ say the members, ‘there’s enough brownfield land in Manchester for a home for everyone’
Then take a look at the ‘save chorlton precinct’ page to see the same person posting about this being an inappropriate place for dense housing. The same person has objected to: Housing at the old Irish Club, a youth centre on the Field of Os.

Pathetic. I personally can’t wait till it’s all built. With a bit of luck I can buy a house on Ryebank fields, right next to the park, stroll down to a vibrant town centre and enjoy it alongside all the new residents who can enjoy this great area.

My only request would be for a decent butchers to set up camp.

As someone who isn’t a boomer – whoever is quoting that, please stop. It’s mega cringe and you are embarrassing yourself/not helping the situation.

Why are they called homes, they are flats, homes have gardens storage and a place to raise a family.
50 free houses for social on benefits, & without the maintenence charge, designed to make the private purchase devalue over the years.

Chorlton boasts a high number of myopic conservatives that dislike progress.

Some of the comments on the Chorlton scheme are hilarious. “Too tall”… have they seen the monstrosity of the buildings that its replacing?!

To Ed – I live in a flat and I consider it my home. It’s extremely homely because I’ve made it that way. Flats can be homes too, don’t be such a snob. Not everybody wants a house and indeed, I’d rather not have a house. My flat is a perfect size and it’s removed from the ground so I feel a lot safer than I would in a house. Houses are much easier to break into – no thanks.

The Stocktons proposal is a disappointing mess… instead of a better mix of reuse and new… the tower is sort of in a particular direction – but what is it? It’s not ‘of Manchester’ or of the local vernacular but just a bit retro in a bad way and I am sure trying to be playful, but ultimately another SH archirt*rd.

As for Chorlton – higher would be fine given the dumpy nature of the existing building. That said. it sticks out like a mess in an otherwise low rise place – and the FCB proposal is a mess. When they built Benzie I was impressed. This low tower looks ridiculous and sad.

Planners, councillors, please push for these iconic sites to be redeveloped to a better, higher standard… do what you can within the realms of vague national guidance and leave a good legacy, please 🙂