Liverpool reveals early stage cruise terminal plans

Liverpool City Council has released images from its public consultation on the city’s proposed permanent cruise terminal, held this week.

The project would involve the controlled removal of Princes Jetty and construction of a new terminal within a “statement” building, on a suspended deck structure in the Mersey.

In 2016 Liverpool welcomed more than 60 vessels, with 120,000 passengers and crew, but the council is keen to capitalise on the cruise boom by expanding its offer to visting ships.

The plans include a new passenger and baggage facility with passport control, lounge, café, toilets, taxi rank and vehicle pick up point. The current terminal generates more than £7m a year to the city’s economy

Engineering consultancy firm Ramboll is leading the technical team that will develop the facility, with a planning application expected to be submitted later this year.

The design team includes architect Stride Treglown, cost manager Gardiner & Theobald, planner JLL, and landscape architect Hyland Edgar Driver.

Tender documents for the procurement of a main contractor on a two-stage contract award basis are expected to be issued in the later part of October this year. In the meantime, tenders have been invited for progressing the site investigation works.

Subject to planning and funding approval the construction works are expected to start in summer 2018. The Ramboll team will then project manage and assist with ongoing monitoring of construction of the new facility.

Further planning applications could potentially include supplemental projects with a new 200-room hotel and 1,700-space car park.

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Everything in Merseyside is for Liverpools benefit. Its now time to break away from a failed city, and its poor leadership, The satellite towns would be far better off out of Merseyside, and in their respective former counties.

By Bung Crosby

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if said ‘statement building’ was a nod to the 3 graces rather than a modern monstrosity. There is no uniformity in modern architecture, it’s all ‘look at me look at me’. Let’s have a nice traditional style building for the terminal.

By The Squirrel's Nuts

It appears from the latest render, that the two large hotels have been shelved to make room for the drop off and bus parking areas. Will this impact on the overall plan, as I am sure having two large hotels would have been a must for this to be a successful venture and revenue provider.

By on the dock

Crosby is as much a part of Liverpool as Toxteth.

By Deebee

Not saying its right or fair – but isn’t everything in ‘Greater Manchester’ for Manchester’s benefit? Areas seem to morph into ‘Greater Manchester’ that I always thought of places in their own right! I think the difference between Liverpool and Manchester is (and I may be wrong) but places like Oldham and Rochdale and Wigan etc don’t seem to mind too much being called ‘Greater Manchester’ . It only appears to be Salford that rejects this, but St Helens, Widnes, Cronton even Huyton which are a lot closer in proximity to Liverpool would rarely refer to themselves as Liverpool or Merseyside. But yes – I agree these satellite towns should be viewed in their own right and get their fair share – and be given what they need for their own identity and area needs.

By Mary Smiley

Where else would one place a river terminal for very large ships. Unfortunately Crosby does not suit the bill. Perhaps Crosby residents will benefit from the boost to the economy by the increase in the tourist and holiday trade generated by this huge investment just as much as other residents from all over this wonderful area we call Liverpool City Region.

By Just a moment.

Mary Smiley. You think Oldham thinks it is part of Manchester?

By Elephant

Is there going to be a direct link from the Cunard Building to the Cruise Liner terminal?

I believe Mr Anderson suggested that this was one of the key reasons for the Council buying the building?

By Mr Smith

great to see the port booming agaim

By b pendleton

Does the drop off area that has swallowed up where the hotels were going to be have to be so large? As it stands there is a piece of land left over, but it looks too small to accomodate a building. If they shaved off just a few car parking spaces though, at least one of the originally planned hotels could then go ahead.

By Morgan

@BungCrosby, Liverpool’s leadership isn’t great at the minute, but leaders can change. You don’t fundementally change structures just because if who is at the top of them at one particular moment. Also, like a large urban area could work without a centre to it. Bizarre nonsense from an anti Liverpool troll.

By Morgan

This is going to be fantastic, I can’t wait until work starts next year. The knock on effects of this and the new stadium can’t be underestimated, this area is going to boom.

By John

That last comment is a load of divisive, pointless waffle that has nothing to do with the development of Cruise Terminal in Central Liverpool. Liverpool to Merseyside, or as it’s now known as the Liverpool City Region is the engine room of the region as Manchester is the engine room of Greater Manchester city region. The satellite towns of the Liverpool City Region owe their existence and economy to the central core city of Liverpool. This is not a negative thing and it is imperative that the region works together rather than splinter into insular, uncooperative small ‘satellite’ towns that have absolutely no scale to attract real, game changing investment.

By Michael McDonough

I know often when I’m abroad and people ask where I’m from and I say ‘Liverpool’ they look at me non-plussed. When I say ‘Crosby’ their eyes light up.

By Du Be Ous

No Elephant, you are misunderstanding me I most certainly don’t think Oldham or Rochdale or Salford or Wigan etc. are part of Manchester. And it really gets my goat when they are described as ‘Greater Manchester’ – and I often think when will Warrington be referred to as Greater Manchester (I am being sarcastic here in case you think I am really stupid) but people seem to be accepting of it. Whereas in my opinion people from Formby, Crosby, Huyton, St Helens, Whiston etc seem to be more keen to say exactly where they are from and don’t always say ‘Liverpool’, ‘Merseyside’ or ‘Greater Liverpool’ if there is such a thing.

By Mary Smiley

Of course Oldham and Rochdale are Greater Manchester, Mary. Its so widely accepted as to without saying. A city is first and foremost an economic entity and those towns have been dependent on Manchester as the commercial and logistical centre of the conurbation since they were formed. There is therefore little difference in the structure and functioning of Greater London and Greater Manchester. Both are cities on the most fundamental definition – their economic structure.

By manc

The building architecture for the new terminal buildings and proposed hotels should compliment and mirror the architecture of the 3 graces. The plans shown are too modernistic and lacking in sympathy to the surrounding historic area.

By Thought for the day

Manc is correct, but that comparison to Greater London is more profound. No-one argues that the East End is like Ealing, or that south of river is like Camden. Recognising GM is an economic unit with a shared economic and social history, doesn’t mean you can airbrush out the diversity.

By Rich

Yes Manc – understood, but surely the same would apply or be true for Liverpool that it would be the centre feeding the wider areas. Which it probably is. But the areas being fed do not recognise this or accept it. Which is shown by the Crosby comments. As I said I rarely hear the Greater Liverpool or even Merseyside name check from people in St Helens, Huyton etc.

By Mary Smiley

Manchester was never the Mother city to the surrounding towns. It may have been to places like Altrincham and Sale,which are basically suburbs,but the Milltowns were too big and rich to rely on Manchester. Oldham had 400 factories at one time. Does anyone really think it couldn’t function without Manchester? London was the epicentre,as it still is of the South East and everyone in that region relies heavily on it for work and leisure. Manchester never fulfilled that role in South East Lancashire.As an Oldhamer growing up in the 60s and early 70s, people rarely went to Manchester

By Elephant

You can’t re-write history, Elephant. Of course Manchester was the “mother city” to Oldham since Oldham was mainly involved in cotton spinning. The higher order, higher value adding commerical activities such as marketing, selling, financing and distribution all occured in the centre of Manchester as they do in any other city. Oldham, important though it was, was a classic mill town, and it succeeded because it did what it did (cotton spinning) very cheaply and efficiently but it was only one part of a much larger system centred on Manchester. Go to any city anywhere in the world and you see economic activities structured in the same way. That’s why cities exist.

By manc

Elephant – the mills started off in Manchester but by the turn of the century the millowners began moving out into the hinterland. The city centre then became the trading and exchange hub of the region, essentially the ‘business’ was done in the city and the production was done in the hinterland mill towns. Oldham, Bolton, Rochdale, Stockport, Bury etc…. owe their current size to Mancunian businesses who moved out but who maintained that commercial link with the core city. The term “Greater Manchester” had been coined as early as 1870 to describe this geo-economic system

By Anonymous

Elephant gets with the times you old sparrow. This isn’t the 60’s/70’s, it’s 2017 and Greater Manchester has become one larger identity, I can assure you young people in the boroughs definitely identify as Mancunian.

By Soya

Manc, I am not re-writing history. As an Elephant I can assure you that I have an excellent memory. “Old Sparrow” Soya?! I will not be forgetting that insult in a hurry.

By Elephant

I thought this news thread was about Liverpool’s new Cruise Liner Terminal building……not Crosby, Manchester, or Oldham etc. Will the extended jetty allow for a two ship berth?
Bung Crosby you should be pressing your Council about that mess called Moor Lane.

By Billy

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