EVENT | Finding True North: Realising the Northern Powerhouse

Finding True North. Held in Manchester…

Manchester is like a spoilt brat whilst it keeps spitting it’s dummy out of the pram they will never be room for a Northern Flowerhouse… move over Manchester there are other more important cities in the North, embarrassing.

WHY MANCHESTER ?

Salford is part of Greater Manchester ..NOT Manchester…One minute, we are included in the Northern Powerhouse (I understand it to stretch from Liverpool to beyond Leeds?) and other times not???

To say that Manchester is not the most important city North of Birmingham,in England at least,is utterly ridiculous.This sour grapes mentality of everybody else,is why London flourishes and we remain in the doldrums. JLL recently reported that Manchester was one of the most successful regional economies in Europe,coming in at 9th.London and Dublin were first and 2nd and Edinburgh 10th.No other city in the UK or Ireland was mentioned.Manchester was above Berlin in this list.Anyone visiting the city knows there is something quite remarkable happening.New restaurants opening daily,Skyscrapers announced every week,more and more .investment in the Knowledge and Digital economies.Has anyone been to the University area recently? It is bigger than some towns.Unlike Liverpool,which dwells on a sentimental past,Manchester is very much about the future.We don’t want a museum thanks,or music tours,talking about people who moved South,once they got a few bob.

Elephant like i still say there are other world cities ( Liverpool City Region) i think have a lot more potential than the likes of Manchester, Leeds and Sheffield, Liverpool is more of an attractive city than ones mentioned , the new Super port and Liverpool Waters about to begin this year , car manufacturing science, film studios etc, i could go on , and only if Manchester had the attractions and waterfront that Liverpool has hey )

Liverpool is way behind both Leeds and Manchester and will never catch up. It doesn’t have access to the population and it doesn’t have the affluence. Even Sheffield has more potential.

Austin I have visited all Leeds Manchester and even Sheffield are you on this planet ?
And of course your going to say that, as you lot have always been jealous of Liverpool and thst is fact. Keep dreaming .
manchester leeds and ermmm even Sheffield are not global cities -Liverpool is.

Liverpool blows you lot out of the water ..landlocked misirable gr#m towns that look the same …Keep dreaming and wake up and don’t believe all you hear or want to believe about Liverpool because it’s all lies )

There will never be a Northern power house and that is fact whist the likes of Manchester leeds continously rant and fight like spoilt brats …the only true potential to be the northern powerhouse is Liverpool and it has proven that once before the city of the Empire the true Northern power , a true global city with still today a global presence .))
liverpool has got it Mojo back.

Go and have a lie down Dave. Please explain why having a nice waterfront is a basis for driving economic growth across the North of England, and am I right in thinking that it could lose its world heritage status? Please explain why Liverpool is ‘a global city’? Liverpool is a handsome city, but then so is Bath and I can’t see any reason why that could be some kind of economic force because of it.

Rrrrr Aaaa Austin lad, I thought we were all friends now in the NP, all working hard to be good and help each other out because of that nasty London, and kind Mr Osbourne waving his magic wand bestowing blessings and goodies on all the fair cities of the beautiful North without Grace or favour so we can all prosper and make life more pleasant, enabling the disadvantaged and unemployed to find a meaningful purpose in life..or have we started to break ranks before the goodies come from Whitehall and it becomes a free for all..no wonder London prospers while we are so far behind and yes I include the whole of the North, recent trips to London just verify that.

I am from the South, lived in Bristol, Cardiff, Southampton and also had a stint in Stockholm. Could say I am impartial. Unfortunately for the self-obsessed, rose tinted glass wearing Scousers, Liverpool is nowhere near Manchester in terms of economy, history, potential, future or reputation/global appeal. This small mindedness makes Scousers a laughing stock, why can’t they stick to their own devices and stop trying to hold the rest back?

Onwards and upwards for Manc, Leeds/Bradford and Sheffield though. I’d like to say the same for Liverpool but in decades to come they’ll still be trying to assimilate the Wirral into their plans, the parochial, arbitrary nonsense that stops it from becoming a functional economic region now will blight it then just like it does now (along with the delusions of grandeur from the local residents).

Liverpool is a fine city,but needs to channel it’s energies into tourism.People love looking at cities with a glorious past.Look at Pompeii and Petra, teeming with visitors,wanting to see relics of a bygone age.

Liverpool is a fantastic city, one of my favourite places in the country. It has it’s own individual character and, in my opinion, the best waterfront of any UK city (its number 1 asset). However, the pace of development going on in Manchester, and to an extent Leeds, is on a completely different level to what is going on in Liverpool right now. A view of the sheer amount of cranes on the Manchester skyline right now compared to other northern cities tells you all you need to know. Liverpool is let down by it’s inept local politicians that cannot collaborate with one another and business leaders effectively, towards attracting investment, in the way that Manchester has. Manchester is not Liverpool’s problem, Liverpool is a victim of itself. If its local politicians could work effectively together toward lobbying businesses and central government for investment, and could shake off the ‘woe is me’ attitude, the investment will come pouring in

The squirrels nuts: you are deluded.

Very funny Elephant absolutely hilarious, you should look into a mirror to see your own relic.

Am from the South also lived in Sydney , Mebourne, Stockholm (manchester for 1 month) and now live in Liverpool, i Could say I am aslo impartial, Manchester from my experience is self obsessed and also has another obsession of slating Liverpool in every opportunity.
Liverpool is a fantastic city much more pleasant than down the M62 and beyond just because the ugly sister has a few more dreadfull souless office block does not make you any better, You will never have the charm and culture that Liverpool has… so take your rose tinted tacky glasses off.

It’s a nice enough looking place on the waterfront Liverpool but is really run down further back. It’s the people that ruin it, and that accent.

Really Lewis ?
So what’s Manchester’s excuse as their accent is very annoying and loud and the whole city is a mess.

Oh dear! All the old prejudices coming out now,we seem to be losing the main thread of this story and it’s backstory.
The NP is appearing to be a monocentric one as opposed to a polycentric one, just because” us lot over here” are pointing that out, we are accussed of all types of things, gosh you guys must really be jealous of Liverpool and it shows!

Man on Bicycle – No one on planet earth is jealous of your decaying junkie infested turd of a city.

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BRIAN : Don’t talk about vile madchester like that landlocked dump that would not exist without LIVERPOOL= FACT

Landlocked grim mill town with no identity or history , bitter and jealous of Liverpool world city

Let’s hope the Event is a success and brings us all together.

Radical idea guys. How about we put all of the bickering from both sides to one side and actually work together? Silicon Valley in America is the size of the distance between Manchester and Liverpool, that’s how much of an economic impact we can have if we get out of this competitive mindset and see that in reality we are close neighbours. At the moment however, you can’t even agree on an EVENT about the Northern Powerhouse, let alone actually make it a reality.

Cathy, it’s not just that Manchester has “few more dreadfull souless office blocks”, it has over double the office takeup of Liverpool.

Please continue to enjoy the “charm and culture” and waterfront – we will continue to enjoy relative economic prosperity and laughing at Scousers.

Second time of asking, why is Liverpool a ‘world city’? Two posters have made reference to it.

Unfortunately there are a couple of childish Liverpudlian trolls on here ruining the comments pages. I suspect they change their name often making it seem like there’s more than there actually are. I also suspect it’s the same posters as on SSC.

Logan, Liverpool has a waterfront, Cilla Black, the Beatles and a football team who were decent in the eighties (the best decade). What has Manchester ever achieved to be considered a world city?